𐰾𐰃𐰔
siz
Meaning:
you (plural); second-person plural predicative marker
In the Orkhon occurrence the form marks the second-person plural of a predicate; this is distinct from use as an independent personal pronoun. Kashgari also records its respectful singular use in Chigil and contrasts the Oghuz practice.
Examples
Translations
German:
ihr; prädikatives Zeichen der zweiten Person Plural
Russian:
вы; показатель сказуемого 2-го лица множественного числа
Turkish (Azerbaijan):
siz; ikinci şəxsin cəm xəbər göstəricisi
Turkish (Türkiye):
siz; ikinci çoğul kişi yüklem göstergesi
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Hendrik Boeschoten (2022) A dictionary of early middle Turkicp. 294b, s.v. siz (complete entry)p. 294b, s.v. siz (complete entry)
siz ‘you’ [pl.] (g.) | [gen.] siziñ ‘your’ (QT1, QT2, QT5, GUL, CCa) / sizüñ (IN) / sizniñ (QT5, MN) | [acc.] sizni ‘you’ (QT2, QT5, GUL, CCa) | [dat.] sizkä ‘(to) you’ (QT1, QT5) / sizgä (QT2, MN, GUL, CCb) / sizä (MM, MN, KD) | [abl.] sizdin ‘from you’ (QT1, QT2, QT5) / sizdän (CCa) | [pl.] silär (QT1, QT3, QT5) / sizlär (QT1–5, QA, MN) -
Dr. Jens Wilkens (2021) Handwörterbuch des Altuigurischen | Eski Uygurcanın El Sözlüğüp. 617b, s.v. 1 siz (complete entry)p. 617b, s.v. 1 siz (complete entry)
¹siz sie, ihr || siz -
Marcel Erdal (2004) A Grammar of Old Turkicpp. 516–517, chapter V, complete paragraph on interrogative gUpp. 516–517, chapter V, complete paragraph on interrogative gU
The Orkhon Turkic interrogative particle gU signals that the speaker expects or prepares a negative answer: azu bo savïmda igid bar gu (KT S10, BQ N8) signifies ‘Or is there a lie in what I said?’; Türk matï bodun bäglär, bödkä körügmä bäglär gü yaŋïltačï siz (KT S11) ‘Oh strong (?) Turk nation and lords, oh lords who have shown allegiance till now, will you fail?’
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Gerard Clauson (1972) An etimological dictionary of pre-thirteenth-century Turkishp. 860a–b, s.v. si:z (complete entry)p. 860a–b, s.v. si:z (complete entry)
si:z 2nd Pers. Plur. Pron. ‘you’. C.i.a.p.a.l. Often used honorifically for the Sing., in which case sizler is sometimes used for the Plur. Türkü viii ff. Man. sizler preceding an Imperat. TT II 8, 70; other cases noted sizni, siziŋ, siziŋe: Uyğ. viii siz taşıkıp ‘start out on the campaign’ Şu. E 10: viii ff. Man.-A sizlerde almış ağu ‘the poison received from you’ MI 19, 15; sizeŋ ‘your’ do. 37, 17; (the body) kim sizni üze turur ‘which is over (i.e. clothes) you’ M III 9, 10 (ii): Man., Bud., Civ. the cases noted are siz, sizni, siziŋ, siziŋe, sizde, sizdin, sizler: O. Kir. ixff. siz is very common in the epitaphs in the lists of persons fr. whom the deceased has been parted in such phr. as siz elime: ‘from you my realm’ Mai. 1,1, and sizime: ‘from you who belong to me’: Xak. xi si:z a Pron. (harf) used to address a distinguished person (al-kabirti’l- -muhtaram) in Çigil in the sense of ‘thou’ (anta); but originally ‘you’ (antum)-, an inferior (al-şağir) is addressed as sen; the Oğuz reverse this usage Kaş. Ill 124; 0.0. I 339 (sen); other cases noted siziŋ, sizge:, sizde:: xm(?) At. siz before Imperats. 104, 284; Tef. cases noted are siz, sizni, siziŋ, sizge, sizde, sizdin, sizler, sizlerni, sizleriŋ, sizlerke, sizlerdin 268-9; XIV Muh. antum si:z Mel. 5, 17; 6, 3; Rif. 76; siz 12, 8; 86; minkum sizden 12, 7; 86; a.0.0.: Çağ. xv ff. siz şumâ ‘you’, in Ar. antum San. 15V. 9; siz (1) 2nd Pers. Plur. Pron. şumâ; (2) when it is combined with itself it is used predicatively, e.g. siz siz ‘you are’ 252V. 12: Xwar. xiv siz Qutb, MN, Nahc. passim: Kom. xiv the cases noted are siz, sizni, siziŋ, sizge, sizden CCI, CCG; Gr.: Kip. xm antum siz Hou. 50, 8 ff.; sizin, sizge do. 52, 9-13: xiv siz antum Id. 52 (‘also a Priv. Suff.’); Bui. 16, 16; sizin do. 14, 14— 15: xv sizni: Kav. 32, 12; sizin, sizde, sizden do. 45, 6—15; siz Bul. 39b. 12; other cases sizni, sizge, sizden. -
M Räsänen, I Kecskeméti (1969) Versuch eines etymologischen Wörterbuchs der Türksprachenp. 424b, s.v. siz (complete entry)p. 424b, s.v. siz (complete entry)
siz ’ihr’, čuv. ɛ-zir, jak. äsigi, isigi MTS 9
